Indeed. Things like that make me want to start a new wikia somewhere. Or maybe just a multi-part fandom primer? :seriously considers: It could be fun to do a writer's resource, covering what's canon and what is accepted fanon and where such fanon came from. Like, a profile on Harry with a caveat explaining the way fandom justifies his chivalry and discussion of the possible history with rape?
DA - with quotes! and page numbers! essays, even (Well, that could be a bit much...).
Also, in response to the possible history with rape - canon instances where rape was hinted at/was a serious possibility, and canon references as to why he wouldn't bring it up, such as his comments that he doesn't like mirrors because he doesn't like looking at himself.
I would separate it out with a basic profile at the top of the page, a summary of the canon, in-book info about the character, then a section for Word of Jim (like Jim's explanation of how Harry watches TV), then popular fanon.
some of those could be pages/essays in and of themselves, but at least it would be a good way of organizing information!
I started doing references for myself, but it was simply too much work that I didn't have time for, and I didn't think anyone would seriously use it.
And I never really got around to what I was looking for, which was the potions we knew Harry used, and of those which we had known ingredients for - ie, the sunlight, money, tequila, etc.
Also, a listing of spells. I *really* want a listing of spells, the "Latin" Harry uses, what the spell does, and what the Latin means, or what Harry's Latin is close to.
No, I don't ask for much from my resources. Really.
:nods: The wikia has a list of Harry's spells, but I noticed a few were missing as I was reading the books... And pages on how spells work-- like that whole thing about Harry setting up a reflective ward for the malocchio. Stuff like that to help fannish writers figure out how the magic rituals and such work in the canon so we can make similar stuff in our fic.
I also don't know if the wikia has it, but I was thinking of page-number references of when Harry uses those spells, or significant instances for common spells - ie, the first time we see Harry enter the NeverNever, the first use of SoulFire/HellFire, etc.
What was necessary to summon the Erlking.
Gods, there's so many times I could have used something like this and I just relied on my memory - which, as you can tell from the prompt, kind of sucks sometimes.
That could be so much fun-- and a hella good way to get a different perspective on the sandbox. Not to mention the pure historical relevance of how DID that become fanon anyway? And somewhere to record some of the various fandom theories-- he didn't actually want to fuck his sister to Collin Murphy was taken out by a Skavis, etc.
So, um, in theory. If we were going to attempt this. What would we do it? Dresden Files Fandom Resource?
Fuck, we could even have pages about, like LGI talked about, the sliding scale of Nice Guy Marcone to Dark Motherfucker Marcone and which fics set up the thing about him driving a limo all the time.
oh man, the last thing i need is another Project. but this could be so awesome.
hmm. i'd say start out small. maybe a dwth comm? a la dresden_resource? leaves the comments for people to participate, and tagging would come in seriously handy, plus maybe a delicious account? and if it gets big enough, move it somewhere externally. but. IF it gets big enough. eggs, chickens, self. see also: biting off more than you can chew.
even a fic, vid, mix, community, etc list would be pretty handy-- a central repository of effort, creative output, etc.
Or add "and Canon Reference" at the end since Fandom Resource sounds a bit like a resource of the fandom side of things.
OMG, I so want that. And where Canon!Marcone fits on that scale at different times in the series. And canonically where Marcone fits on the limo reference.
Umm... I'd volunteer to help, but my help would be minimal. Although I'm willing to offer up what I've done so far, and whatever I can reasonably do in the future.
if you do this I will love you forever and ever and ever XD I've been reading so much fics that the canon and fanon are getting mixed up in my head. I'll need to re-read the books soon.
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Re: Dragon!Prompt
Date: 2011-02-24 02:15 am (UTC)Re: Dragon!Prompt
Date: 2011-02-24 02:20 am (UTC)Also, in response to the possible history with rape - canon instances where rape was hinted at/was a serious possibility, and canon references as to why he wouldn't bring it up, such as his comments that he doesn't like mirrors because he doesn't like looking at himself.
Re: Dragon!Prompt
Date: 2011-02-24 02:22 am (UTC)I mean, if I was doing this, anyway.
Re: Dragon!Prompt
Date: 2011-02-24 02:27 am (UTC)I started doing references for myself, but it was simply too much work that I didn't have time for, and I didn't think anyone would seriously use it.
And I never really got around to what I was looking for, which was the potions we knew Harry used, and of those which we had known ingredients for - ie, the sunlight, money, tequila, etc.
Also, a listing of spells. I *really* want a listing of spells, the "Latin" Harry uses, what the spell does, and what the Latin means, or what Harry's Latin is close to.
No, I don't ask for much from my resources. Really.
-OP
Re: Dragon!Prompt
Date: 2011-02-24 02:33 am (UTC)Re: Dragon!Prompt
Date: 2011-02-24 02:44 am (UTC)What was necessary to summon the Erlking.
Gods, there's so many times I could have used something like this and I just relied on my memory - which, as you can tell from the prompt, kind of sucks sometimes.
Re: Dragon!Prompt
Date: 2011-02-24 02:28 am (UTC)Re: Dragon!Prompt
Date: 2011-02-24 02:31 am (UTC)Fuck, we could even have pages about, like LGI talked about, the sliding scale of Nice Guy Marcone to Dark Motherfucker Marcone and which fics set up the thing about him driving a limo all the time.
I so want to do this, NGL.
Re: Dragon!Prompt
Date: 2011-02-24 02:34 am (UTC)hmm. i'd say start out small. maybe a dwth comm? a la
even a fic, vid, mix, community, etc list would be pretty handy-- a central repository of effort, creative output, etc.
Re: Dragon!Prompt
Date: 2011-02-24 02:38 am (UTC)I think a resource comm and a general announcement comm should be affiliated but linked, no?
Re: Dragon!Prompt
Date: 2011-02-24 02:41 am (UTC)Definitely. Organization is going to be the name of the game, here.
Re: Dragon!Prompt
Date: 2011-02-24 02:43 am (UTC)Re: Dragon!Prompt
Date: 2011-02-24 02:39 am (UTC)OMG, I so want that. And where Canon!Marcone fits on that scale at different times in the series. And canonically where Marcone fits on the limo reference.
Umm... I'd volunteer to help, but my help would be minimal. Although I'm willing to offer up what I've done so far, and whatever I can reasonably do in the future.
Re: Dragon!Prompt
Date: 2011-02-24 02:43 am (UTC)Re: Dragon!Prompt
Date: 2011-02-24 03:21 am (UTC)I've been reading so much fics that the canon and fanon are getting mixed up in my head. I'll need to re-read the books soon.