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scribe_protra ([personal profile] scribe_protra) wrote2011-02-06 09:43 pm
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Round 2 is closed.

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This round is now closed.
luciazephyr: Book of the Still, the time traveler's lifeline (Default)

Re: See the Truth

[personal profile] luciazephyr 2011-02-24 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
Oh! Crap! I didn't know this was an issue too, like needing alt tags on images.

What does the alt tag do? Should it say where the link goes? :confused:
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Re: See the Truth

[personal profile] binz 2011-02-24 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
Er, that should be: The long and short of how I understand it, it gives the screen reader something to read so the user knows where they're going, as many of the screen readers won't(?) read the hyperlinked text.

[a href="google.com" alt="link to google.com"]go to google![/a]

(There's also the title attribute title=" ", which is basically what gives you hovertext, for a little bit more non-essential info, but (again, as I understand it) alt is preferred, and most programmes will read it instead of title if both are present.

There's also also longdesc, which links to a separate page with a much longer description, but I think browser support for that is patchy, and also, if you need to link to a separate page to describe where your link is going, you're doing it wrong. Title and longdesc are generally, I think, more common for images than links anyway.)
Edited 2011-02-24 01:37 (UTC)
jadelennox: Oracle with a headset: Heroes Use Headsets (gimp: heroes use headsets)

Re: See the Truth

[personal profile] jadelennox 2011-02-24 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
No, you don't need alt tags on anchors, just on images. <img src="url" alt="harry necking with marcone" />

In an anchor, some people put title attributes, but they don't actually help with most common adaptive tech settings. So don't worry about it. Screenreaders will read the text wrapped in the element, eg: <a href="url">screenreaders will read this part</a>
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Re: See the Truth

[personal profile] lightgetsin 2011-02-24 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
No, none of that is the slightest bit necessary for screenreaders. You're the third person who's thought so -- where are people getting this stuff?
binz: a small pink octopus suctions to a woman's face. two chopsticks fly out of her raised hand. (Default)

Re: See the Truth

[personal profile] binz 2011-02-24 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
Haha, hilarious. It's actually in the web guide for my work-- which, arguably, also looks like most of it hasn't been updated since html4. Luckily, I'm the only one who has to use it, and at least I have the internet to tell me when it's doing things wrong.
binz: a small pink octopus suctions to a woman's face. two chopsticks fly out of her raised hand. (Default)

Re: See the Truth

[personal profile] binz 2011-02-24 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
Dammit, dwth, I wasn't done.

I imagine someone, sometime, taught a few people that way, and it's spread out to various manuals and guides and training classes and has never been effectively blocked or, if relevant, updated.
jadelennox: Oracle with a headset: Heroes Use Headsets (gimp: heroes use headsets)

Re: See the Truth

[personal profile] jadelennox 2011-02-24 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
No, you don't need alt tags on anchors, just on images. <img src="url" alt="harry necking with marcone" />

In an anchor, some people put title attributes, but they don't actually help with any common adaptive tech settings. So don't worry about it.
luciazephyr: Book of the Still, the time traveler's lifeline (Default)

Re: See the Truth

[personal profile] luciazephyr 2011-02-24 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
:even more confused now, aaaah:

I... will wait until I see LGI on Twitter and ask her about it, since I know she uses a screen reader. 8D
jadelennox: Oracle with a headset: Heroes Use Headsets (gimp: heroes use headsets)

Re: See the Truth

[personal profile] jadelennox 2011-02-24 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
Basically, use alt on images, and you're fine. Use meaningful linktext on anchor tags (eg: <a href="url">screenreaders will read this part</a>), and you're fine. :D

Re: See the Truth

(Anonymous) 2011-02-24 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
How do screenreaders handle what happens to links in anon comments? I usually do bare links in anon comments because the anchor links get twisted up anyway, but is it better for screenreaders if I still use them?

That is, do screenreaders like "the Dresden Files Wikia (http://dresdenfiles.wikia.com)" better than "here's the Dresden Files Wikia: http://dresdenfiles.wikia.com "? Because if so I'll go back to using anchor tags.

(And note to the hapless anon commenter who spawned this discussion: none of the stuff posted above will work if you're posting anon, because DW/LJ will make a link look like the bold bit in this comment, and inline images will get swapped out with a placeholder. It's a spamfighting thing.)
lightgetsin: The Doodledog with frisbee dangling from her mouth, looking mischievious, saying innocence personified. (Default)

Re: See the Truth

[personal profile] lightgetsin 2011-02-24 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
They are functionally the same, so doesn't matter.

Re: See the Truth

(Anonymous) 2011-02-24 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for letting me know!
lightgetsin: The Doodledog with frisbee dangling from her mouth, looking mischievious, saying innocence personified. (Default)

Re: See the Truth

[personal profile] lightgetsin 2011-02-24 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
What Jade said -- regular links with no alt attribute are fine.
luciazephyr: Book of the Still, the time traveler's lifeline (Default)

Re: See the Truth

[personal profile] luciazephyr 2011-02-24 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you! Just wanted to be sure. ♥